Saturday, May 26, 2007

The Odd Attempt at Marginalization of Dr. Ron Paul by Pundits

"Media pundits", the popular euphemism for yapping do-nothing, know-nothings, keep up with the "Big Lie" that Dr. Ron Paul has the urban legendish "one percent" support. The Big Lie of the "one percenter" is an in your face attempt to portray Dr. Paul as a marginalized , "out there" candidate with no chance of winning. In fact, Dr. Paul is a populist candidate with mainstream American ideas that is gaining support every day.

It is, in fact, "too much rouge" Rudy Giuliani, "America's Failure" that is becoming more and more irrelevant to the real debate.

The 9-11 report supported Dr. Paul on the real motivations behind why the "terrorists" attacked us on that infamous date.

I found it , and find it, extremely interesting that neither McCain, nor "Too Much Rouge" Rudy (Giuliani), Mitt Romney, nor any of the other people portrayed as "frontrunners" finds it important to talk about the nationality of the majority of the hijackers, namely, they were Saudis. If Georgie Porgie Bush had have done the logical thing, he would have attacked Afghanistan and perhaps Saudi Arabia, the latter who were notorious for funding and giving money to the families of suicide bombers. Bush's action was the same as someone who gets hit in the face on the street, and who instead of hitting the person who hit them, roams down the street until they find a smaller weaker person who they have never liked, and hit THEM in the face.

Let's face it, Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate on the Republican roster, who has a snowball's chance in hell of getting actually elected.

On 25 May, 2007, on REAL TIME with BILL MAHER, actor Ben Affleck said he predicted that Mitt Romney would be the candidate for the Republicans. Democrats should hope that it is the case. Why?
At http://www.rasmussenresearch.com
we read Election 2008: 43% Would Never Vote for Mormon Candidate
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November 20, 2006
Republican Mitt Romney

Mitt Romney (R) begins the 2008 campaign season in fourth place among those seeking the GOP Presidential nomination, trailing Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Condoleezza Rice. While many Republican insiders believe the Massachusetts Governor could become an attractive candidate to the party’s social conservatives, a Rasmussen Reports survey finds that Romney’s faith may initially be more of a hindrance than a help.

Forty-three percent (43%) of American voters say they would never even consider voting for a Mormon Presidential candidate. Only 38% say they would consider casting such a vote while 19% are not sure (see crosstabs). Half (53%) of all Evangelical Christians say that they would not consider voting for a Mormon candidate."

A more recent poll at http://www.rapidcityjournal.com about a "USA Today/Gallup poll, found that almost 29 percent of Americans said they would not vote for a Mormon for president. Among evangelical Christians, surveys show that more than half would not vote for a Mormon."

Thus, anywhere from 29 percent (almost a third) to more than half, would not vote for a Mormon. This kind of loss of voters certainly would hurt Romney's chance of occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC.

In stark contrast, we KNOW that the so-called "Sun Belt" of the US, including but not limited to the Red States of the South, would look VERY favorably on a "Son of the South" such as Dr. Ron Paul from Texas (remember the country elected a Texan TWICE to the Whitehouse, in spite of his bumbling, country wrecking policies) who conforms well to the profile of past presidents.

He is a MALE, he is from the South, from Texas, Caucasian, conservative, and a well respected professional man. This is not to in any way take anything away from either Ms. Clinton nor Mr. Obama, but, if we look at the makeup/profile of the past 43 presidents, NONE have been Mormon by religion (Nixon was a Quaker), NONE have been female, NONE have been black, NONE have been known to crossdress in public and been videotaped and photographed doing so (Rudy Giuliani's pictures, dressing like a woman and using an affected voice in a videotape with Donald Trump is available for view on the internet), ONLY Four had a last name ending in a vowel, NONE have had a last name ending in any vowel other than "E".

And, something I discovered was that an astounding 22 out of the 43 presidents of the United States, (over half) had one of their names (usually first, last, or both first and last) ending in the letter "N". This would bode well for RoN Paul, or JohN McCaiN, or Hillary ClintoN.

As to religious affiliation, Ron Paul lists himself as "Protestant".

An interesting list of the religious affiliations of past presidents is found at
http://www.adherents.com/adh_presidents.html . Quoted below:

DenominationNumber of
Presidents
Percent of
Presidents
Percent of
Current
U.S. Pop.
Ratio:
% of Pres.
to % of Pop.
Episcopalian 11 26.2% 1.7% 15.4
Presbyterian 10 23.8% 2.8% 5.1
Methodist 5 11.9% 8.0% 1.5
Baptist 4 9.5% 18.0% 0.5
Unitarian 4 9.5% 0.2% 47.5
Disciples of Christ 3 7.1% 0.4% 18.7
Dutch Reformed 2 4.8% 0.1% 48.0
Quaker 2 4.8% 0.7% 6.9
Congregationalist 2 2.4% 0.6% 4.0
Catholic 1 2.4% 24.5% 0.1
Jehovah's Witness 1 2.4% 0.6% 6.0
TOTAL 42 100% 57.0%

Keep in mind that in the table above, the % of the U.S. population for religious groups are current figures. Religious groups have had much different proportions at various time in U.S. history.

One of the most over-represented religious groups among U.S. presidents is Unitarianism. Despite merging with Universalism in the 1960s, the combined proportion of Unitarian Universalists in the U.S. population is just 0.2% of the population (one in every 500 Americans). Yet there have been 4 Unitarian presidents.

Another over-represented religious group among U.S. presidents is Dutch Reformed, by virtue of having two U.S. presidents, yet having only a small number of people left in the country who identify themselves as Reformed. The contemporary heir to the Dutch Reformed churches is the "Reformed Church in America," which has about 300,000 members in the U.S. and Canada. (Alternatively, one might count only a single president as Dutch Reformed, if Theodore Roosevelt is counted as an Episcopalian -- sources differ on this subject. Even just one Dutch Reformed president would constitute statistical over-representation.)

After that, Disciples of Christ, Episcopalians, and Quakers have also had representation in the White House far outstripping their proportion of the U.S. population.

On the other end of the scale, the most under-represented religious group is Catholicism, which has had only one U.S. president (John F. Kennedy), despite making up 25% of the current U.S. population. Also under-represented are Baptists, whose proportion of the U.S. population (18%) is twice their proportion of U.S. presidents (9.5%)."

So we see that ONLY .1 percent , i.e. ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT of Presidents elected in the United States, were Catholic (can you say John F. Kennedy?). This is another strike against "TOO MUCH ROUGE" Rudy (who is Catholic).

In fact, let's see the negatives against Rudy.

NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER BEEN ELECTED WITH A FIRST NAME OF "RUDY".

NO PRESIDENT HAS BEEN ELECTED WHO HAS BEEN PHOTOGRAPHED MORE THAN ONCE IN PUBLIC WEARING WOMEN'S ATTIRE OR WEARING MAKEUP.

NO PRESIDENT HAS BEEN ELECTED WHO HAS THE FIRST NAME ENDING IN A "Y"
AND A VOWEL ENDING THE LAST NAME. NO PRESIDENT ELECTED HAS HAD HIS LAST NAME END IN "I".

There has been the assertion in the past that the taller candidate usually wins.

In fact, it is interesting to look at the heights of our Presidents.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heights_of_United_States_presidential_candidates

Rank President U.S. customary
units
Metric
1 Abraham Lincoln 6 ft 3¾ in 1.92 m
2 Lyndon B. Johnson 6 ft 3½ in 1.91 m
3 Thomas Jefferson 6 ft 2½ in 1.89 m
4 Chester A. Arthur
George H.W. Bush
Franklin Roosevelt
6 ft 2 in 1.88 m
7 Bill Clinton
George Washington
6 ft 1½ in 1.87 m
9 Andrew Jackson
Ronald Reagan
6 ft 1 in 1.85 m
11 James Buchanan
Gerald Ford
James Garfield
Warren Harding
John F. Kennedy
James Monroe
William Howard Taft
John Tyler
6 ft 0 in 1.83 m
19 Richard Nixon 5 ft 11½ in 1.82 m
20 George W. Bush
Grover Cleveland
Herbert Hoover
Woodrow Wilson
5 ft 11 in 1.80 m
24 Dwight D. Eisenhower 5 ft 10½ in 1.79 m
25 Calvin Coolidge
Andrew Johnson
Franklin Pierce
5 ft 10 in 1.78 m
28 Jimmy Carter
Millard Fillmore
Harry Truman
5 ft 9 in 1.75 m
31 Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
5 ft 8½ in 1.74 m
33 William Henry Harrison
James Polk
Zachary Taylor
5 ft 8 in 1.73 m
36 Ulysses S. Grant 5 ft 7¾ in 1.72 m
37 John Adams
John Quincy Adams
William McKinley
5 ft 7 in 1.70 m
40 Benjamin Harrison
Martin Van Buren
5 ft 6 in 1.68 m
42 James Madison 5 ft 3¾ in 1.62 m

Comparative table of heights of United States presidential candidates

TALLER candidate was inaugurated SHORTER candidate was inaugurated
Candidates same height Comparison data unavailable
Year ↓ Winner ↓ Height
(Imperial) ↓
Height
(Metric) ↓
Runner-up
(by electoral vote count) ↓
Height
(Imperial) ↓
Height
(Metric) ↓
Difference
(Imperial) ↓
Difference
(Metric) ↓
2004 George W. Bush 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m John Kerry 6 ft 4 in 1.93 m 5 in 0.13 m
2000 George W. Bush 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m Al Gore 6 ft ½ in 1.84 m 1½ in 0.04 m
1996 Bill Clinton 6 ft 1½ in 1.87 m Bob Dole 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m 1½ in 0.04 m
1992 Bill Clinton 6 ft 1½ in 1.87 m George H.W. Bush 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m ½ in 0.01 m
1988 George H.W. Bush 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m Michael Dukakis 5 ft 6 in 1.67 m 8 in 0.21 m
1984 Ronald Reagan 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m Walter Mondale 5 ft 10¾ in 1.80 m 2¼ in 0.05 m
1980 Ronald Reagan 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m Jimmy Carter 5 ft 9 in 1.75 m 4 in 0.10 m
1976 Jimmy Carter 5 ft 9 in 1.75 m Gerald Ford 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 4 in 0.10 m
1972 Richard Nixon 5 ft 11½ in 1.82 m George McGovern 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 1½ in 0.03 m
1968 Richard Nixon 5 ft 11½ in 1.82 m Hubert Humphrey 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m ½ in 0.02 m
1964 Lyndon Johnson[1] 6 ft 3½ in 1.92 m Barry Goldwater 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m 3½ in 0.09 m
1960 John F. Kennedy 6 ft 0½ in 1.83 m Richard Nixon 5 ft 11½ in 1.82 m 1 in 0.01 m
1956 Dwight D. Eisenhower 5 ft 10½ in 1.79 m Adlai Stevenson 5 ft 10 in 1.78 m ½ in 0.01 m
1952 Dwight D. Eisenhower 5 ft 10½ in 1.79 m Adlai Stevenson 5 ft 10 in 1.78 m ½ in 0.01 m
1948 Harry S. Truman 5 ft 9 in 1.75 m Thomas Dewey 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m 1 in 0.02 m
1944 Franklin D. Roosevelt 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m Thomas Dewey 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m 6 in 0.15 m
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m Wendell Willkie 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 1 in 0.03 m
1936 Franklin D. Roosevelt 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m Alfred Landon 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m 6 in 0.15 m
1932 Franklin D. Roosevelt 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m Herbert Hoover 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m 3 in 0.08 m
1928 Herbert Hoover[2] 5 ft 11½ in 1.82 m Al Smith 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 1½ in 0.03 m
1924 Calvin Coolidge 5 ft 10 in 1.78 m John W. Davis 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m 2 in 0.05 m
1920 Warren G. Harding 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m James M. Cox 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m 6 in 0.15 m
1916 Woodrow Wilson[3] 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m Charles Evans Hughes 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m 0 in 0 m
1912 Woodrow Wilson[3] 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m Theodore Roosevelt[4] 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m 3 in 0.08 m
1908 William Howard Taft 5 ft 11½ in[5] 1.82 m William Jennings Bryan 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m ½ in 0.01 m
1904 Theodore Roosevelt[4] 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m Alton B. Parker 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m 4 in 0.10 m
1900 William McKinley 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m William Jennings Bryan 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m 5 in 0.13 m
1896 William McKinley 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m William Jennings Bryan 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m 5 in 0.13 m
1892 Grover Cleveland 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m Benjamin Harrison 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m 5 in 0.12 m
1888 Benjamin Harrison[6] 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m Grover Cleveland 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m 5 in 0.12 m
1884 Grover Cleveland 5 ft 11 in 1.80 m James G. Blaine



1880 James A. Garfield 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m Winfield Hancock 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m 2 in 0.05 m
1876 Rutherford B. Hayes [7] 5 ft 8 in 1.72 m Samuel Tilden



1872 Ulysses S. Grant[8] 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m Horace Greeley



1868 Ulysses S. Grant[8] 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m Horatio Seymour



1864 Abraham Lincoln[9] 6 ft 3¾ in 1.93 m George McClellan [10] 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m 10 in .25 m
1860 Abraham Lincoln[9] 6 ft 3¾ in 1.93 m John C. Breckenridge



1856 James Buchanan 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m John C. Frémont



1852 Franklin Pierce 5 ft 10 in 1.78 m Winfield Scott 6 ft 5 in 1.96 m 7 in 0.18 m
1848 Zachary Taylor[4] 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m Lewis Cass



1844 James K. Polk [11] 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m Henry Clay[12] 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 5 in 0.13 m
1840 William Henry Harrison 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m Martin Van Buren [13] 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m 2 in 0.05 m
1836 Martin Van Buren [13] 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m William Henry Harrison 5 ft 8 in 1.73 m 2 in 0.05 m
1832 Andrew Jackson[14] 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m Henry Clay[12] 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 0 in 0 m
1828 Andrew Jackson[14] 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m John Quincy Adams[15] 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m 6 in 0.15 m
1824 John Quincy Adams [15] 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m Andrew Jackson[14] 6 ft 1 in 1.85 m 6 in 0.15 m
1820 James Monroe [16] 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m John Quincy Adams[15] 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m 5 in 0.13 m
1816 James Monroe[16] 6 ft 0 in 1.83 m Rufus King 5 ft 10 in 1.78 m 2 in 0.05 m
1812 James Madison[7] 5 ft 4 in 1.63 m De Witt Clinton[17] 6 ft 3 in 1.91 m 11 in 0.28 m
1808 James Madison[7] 5 ft 4 in 1.63 m Charles C. Pinckney



1804 Thomas Jefferson[18] 6 ft 2½ in 1.89 m Charles C. Pinckney



1800 Thomas Jefferson[18] 6 ft 2½ in 1.89 m Aaron Burr [19] 5 ft 6 in 1.68 m 8½ in 0.21 m
1796 John Adams [20] 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m Thomas Jefferson[18] 6 ft 2½ in 1.89 m 7½ in 0.19 m
1792 George Washington[21] 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m John Adams[20] 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m 7 in 0.18 m
1789 George Washington [21] 6 ft 2 in 1.88 m John Adams[20] 5 ft 7 in 1.70 m 7 in 0.18 m

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Thus, EIGHTEEN of the Presidents have been six foot tall or over. That is not quite half, but fairly close. G W Bush was shorter than his opponent, as he is listed as 5'11" and Kerry is 6'4".

More from the Wikipedia article

Notes

It is worth mentioning that while Franklin D. Roosevelt was over six feet tall, he was also wheelchair-bound, so although he technically was taller than his most serious rivals he would not have appeared taller had the two men been placed side-by-side if he were in a wheelchair. Roosevelt often appeared in photo sessions and speaking engagements standing with the help of concealed leg braces. So in those instances he would stand to his full 6'2" height.

[edit] Heights and Presidential elections: Myth and reality

Graph of winner v. loser heights in Presidential elections from 1798 - 2004. (Click to enlarge)
Graph of winner v. loser heights in Presidential elections from 1798 - 2004. (Click to enlarge)

[original research?]

The table above was created to compare the folk wisdom about U.S. presidential politics that the taller of the two major-party candidates always wins or always wins since the advent of the televised presidential debate, since 1900, etc.[original research?]

  • An example of this view is included in a 2003 essay by New York Times writer Virginia Postrel about artificially increasing the height of growth-stunted children: "Still, being short does, on average, hurt a person's prospects...The tall guy gets the girl. The taller presidential candidate almost always wins."[22]
  • A 1988 article in the Los Angeles Times fashion section about a haberdasher devoted to clothing shorter men included a variation of the tale: "Stern says he just learned that Dukakis is 5 feet, 8 inches. 'Did you know,' he adds, noticeably disappointed, 'that since 1900 the taller of the two candidates always wins?' "[23]
  • A 1997 book called How to Make Anyone Fall in Love with You discusses the issue in a section about the importance of height, "What about height? One assumes the taller the better, because our culture venerates height. In fact, practically every president elected in the United States since 1900 was the taller of the two candidates."[24]
  • "I remember the subversive effect the observation had on me that in every U.S. presidential race, the taller of the two candidates had been elected. It opened up space for a counterdiscourse to the presumed rationality of the electoral process." [25]
  • A 1975 book called First Impressions: The Psychology of Encountering Others notes, "Elevator Shoes, Anyone? One factor which has a far-reaching influence on how people are perceived, at least in American society, is height. From 1900 to 1968 the man elected U.S. president was always the taller of the two candidates. (Richard Nixon was slightly shorter than George McGovern.)"[26]
  • Another book discussing height, The Psychology of Person Identification (published 1978) states, "They also say that every President of the USA elected since the turn of the century has been the taller of the two candidates (Jimmy Carter being an exception)."[27]
  • A 1999 book, Survival of the Prettiest by Nancy Etcoff, repeated a version of the legend in a section on the power of heights, "...Since 1776 only [two Presidents,] James Madison and Benjamin Harrison[,] have been below-average height. The easiest way to predict the winner in a United States election is to bet on the taller man: in this century you would have had an unbroken string of hits until 1968 when Richard Nixon beat George McGovern."[28]

In reality, for the 46 elections in which the height of which both candidates is known, the taller candidate won 25 times (approximately 54 percent of the time), the shorter candidate won 18 times (approximately 39 percent of the time) and the candidates were the same height three times (about 7 percent of the time).[original research?] Therefore, the taller candidate has won the majority of elections, but the tall-short margin of victory is by no means overwhelming.

It should be noted however that in three of the cases where the shorter candidate won, the taller candidate actually received more popular votes but lost in the Electoral College; this happened in 1824, 1888, and 2000 (the other time that the electoral vote winner was not the popular vote winner was in 1876, for which we do not know the height of the loser).[original research?] So of the 46 cases we have data, the taller candidate has won the popular vote 28 times (61 percent), and the shorter candidate only about 15 times (33 percent of them).

[edit] Extremes

The tallest President elected to office was Abraham Lincoln (6'4", 1.92 m); the tallest President to originally enter the office by means other than election was Lyndon B. Johnson (6'3½", 1.91 m). The shortest President elected to office was James Madison (5'4", 1.62 m); the shortest President to originally enter the office by means other than election was Teddy Roosevelt (5'8", 1.74 m).

The tallest runner-up (of documented height) is Winfield Scott, who stood 6'5" (1.96 m) and lost the 1852 election to Franklin Pierce (5'10", 1.78 m). The title of shortest runner-up (of documented height) is shared by four men, all 5'6" (1.68 m): Aaron Burr, who lost to Thomas Jefferson in 1800; sitting President Martin Van Buren, who lost to William Henry Harrison, in 1840; sitting President Benjamin Harrison, who lost to Grover Cleveland in 1892; and James M. Cox, who lost to Warren G. Harding in 1920.

The largest height difference (when the heights of the winner and the runner-up are both known) was between the candidates of the 1812 election, when DeWitt Clinton stood 11 inches (0.28 m) taller than incumbent James Madison. The second-largest height difference was in the 1864 election, when Abraham Lincoln stood 10 inches (0.25 m) taller than his nearest rival, George McClellan.

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How tall is "Too Much Rouge" Rudy Giuliani?
I have read he is only a diminuitive FIVE FEET TALL(http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2007/02/oh-rudy-rudy-rudy-giuliani-and.html)...but, I think Giulian (5'91/2") is shorter than Bush (5'11)

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